NATO and the United States are allies of Turkey in Idlib and opponents in other files

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This statement came to the Turkish minister during his meeting with his American counterpart, Mark Esper, at a time when the United States expressed its dissatisfaction with what is going on in Idlib, and that they are determined to support Turkey in this situation, through its Foreign Minister Mike Pompeo.

NATO, in turn, expressed its concern about the situation in Idlib and confirmed by NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg for his support for the ally Turkey, and called on Russia and the Syrian government to stop the attack there.

Why Turkey is asking for support?

On the reason that the United States in addition to NATO to express their support for Turkey, and the reason that calls for Turkey to request this support, European affairs journalist Waseem Ibrahim spoke to “Sputnik” and stressed that it is only verbal support, and it will not develop into concrete financial support.

He continues: I think that this declared support is political support and is at a minimum, as Turkey is an ally member of NATO and the International Security Organization, which members subscribe to the principle of joint defense, and if we look at the issue from another angle, we can say that the situation is still a weak position.

Ibrahim continues: Turkey in terms of the killing of soldiers in terms of the threat to its forces and borders is considered in a crisis situation, and NATO has not done towards the member state what it is supposed to do according to the principle of joint defense for many reasons, and there are political differences that persist behind it, and it has not evolved to be the concrete support that he demanded The Turkish minister, and it can be called as a duty only or to raise a lintel.

As for Turkish political analyst Yusef Kateboglu, in an interview with Sputnik, this issue is attributed to the fact that the issue has become at the international level, and it shows: It is quite clear that what is happening in Idlib has become an international issue and not only a regional affair, and therefore when politics and diplomacy fail and there is targeting For Turkish national security, and in less than a week, 14 Turkish soldiers fall and more than 40 wounded, this foretells to the entry of the Syrian file and Idlib specifically to a new and dangerous stage, and this comes due to the current escalation and targeting of civilians, Turkish national security and Kurdish soldiers.

And writer Oglu continues: Turkey has demanded, through the Turkish Defense Minister, Khulusi Akar NATO, to assume its responsibility, since Turkey is a member of NATO, and therefore it is natural for you to request that, because Idlib now has a time bomb of humanity, so what is the fate of 3.5-4 million people, and where? Will they go ?.

And the Turkish analyst continues: Idlib’s common borders are with Turkey, and the pressure now on Turkey is enormous and it has absorbed for 9 years about 4 million refugees, and now it cannot absorb the same number again, and now on the fence there are a million civilians, who have nothing to do with terrorist groups or Al-Qaeda or the Al-Nusra Front.

And he continues: There is a real humanitarian crisis and therefore Turkey says to NATO that military intervention is not required, but rather demands NATO intervention to spare a major humanitarian catastrophe, and there is a real dilemma, and Turkey wants to have a safe area, and that these people are not displaced from their lands, under Turkish protection or NATO protection .

He added: Sochi has fallen and we cannot say that we need Sochi again. There must be a fundamental solution either through the last tour that will take place through the Turkish delegation that Gawishoglu will go to Moscow, or there will be an imposition of the option of a safe zone by force on the ground, This is what Turkey is preparing for now if it does not back down.

In his turn, the lecturer at the Institute of International Relations at the Nizhny Novgorod Russian University, Amr al-Deeb, and in connection with “Sputnik”, believes that the support of NATO and the United States for Turkey is natural because Turkey is a member state of NATO, and continues: Soldiers of Levant currently the terrorist in the Idlib regions is against the interests of Turkey and the United States in Syria, because we know that the issue of the continuation of these terrorist groups is beneficial to them, and there is no cause for confusion in this matter.

And he continues: There is an important point is how these countries can explicitly declare their support for a group recognized as a terrorist in most countries of the world such as the Ahrar al-Sham or the Al-Nusra Front, and where is the war on terrorism that the United States fought wars against, as it says in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in Yemen, and in other areas? In the world?.

Al-Deeb continues: I hope that Russia and the Syrian army continue to get rid of the presence of these groups, because the presence and continued presence of terrorism in Idlib, strategically, economically and militarily, is unacceptable to the Syrian state, and the Russian military operation that started at the end of 2015.

He continues: If it is agreed to calm things down or leave the situation as it is, then it will be, according to my personal opinion, a betrayal of the Russian military operation, the lives of the Syrian soldiers, and the blood of the Syrian people that was shed more than 9 years ago.

Support against Russia

Europeans and Americans have long been silent about the events taking place in Idlib, in light of the existence of understandings between the Russian and Turkish sides, but as soon as a kind of lack of understanding emerged between Moscow and Ankara, American and Atlantic support emerged, and about the secret behind this, the journalist Waseem Ibrahim says:

NATO and the United States are not comfortable with the rapprochement or the existence of a joint working formula between Turkey and Russia in Syria, and they are not comfortable with the Russian missile system that has spurted NATO, as NATO considers Russia as an opponent country, so this issue is surrounded by suspicion from NATO.

He continues: Russian recitals exist, of course, but until now there is no support from NATO until it can be said that it is directed towards Russia. There is an allergy with Russia from NATO and the United States and they are never satisfied with this cooperation.

Ibrahim noted: There is an important issue, which is that among the 29 NATO member states, there are 25 European countries that are not at all supportive of the intervention that can be called the Turkish invasion of northern Syria, nor the nature of the tasks carried out by Turkey in Syria, and it is difficult to imagine that tangible direct support from NATO in light of this strong European opposition to what Turkey is doing.

He continues: This opposition became clear when the Turks struck the arm that the United States and the Europeans worked to train on the ground, namely the Syrian Kurdish forces, and was condemned by European countries, which are also members of NATO.

As for the Turkish analyst Yusef Kateboglu, he says: This is the Western nations and the United States seize the opportunity when there are differences or lack of understandings, and now the American statements that they are ready to support Turkey and the coming of Jeffrey and try to give political momentum is only a catch in troubled waters, which is an exploitation of the situation. It is an exploitation of the position.

He continues: This thing is of course directed against Russia, but Turkey does not trust the United States and does not count on its position, and if there was an honest American position, it would have abandoned the support of the “Beka Ka”, SDF and other Kurdish groups in the east of the Euphrates, and Turkey suffers from this file Until now.

So now the United States is trying to get closer to Turkey at the expense of the growing Turkish-Russian relations, and this will not have a strong impact on Turkish decision-making, but perhaps the American position of being the United States a member of NATO can be benefited, and Turkey is asking NATO to shoulder its responsibilities in the region.

As for the doctor at Nizhny Novgorod Russian University, Amr Al-Deeb confirms: I said before getting rid of terrorist groups is against their interests, because these groups are a threat to the Russian presence and to the Hmeimim base, we do not forget that there is a continuous attack by drones that leave this area at Hmeimim Airport, and there Many civilians were also killed because of this group and its presence in this region, and all of these things are silent by the United States.

Al-Deeb continues: But when steps are taken to get rid of these groups, we see an American and Turkish objection, and we even see crying by them as if the Syrian and Russian army are fighting children and not fighting groups recognized as terrorists from the countries of the world as a whole.

He continues: There is an important point that must be pointed out, which is that there was no Russian-Turkish understanding about what is going on in Idlib, but there was a so-called Russian silence, because Russia and its leadership cannot understand or communicate with terrorist groups such as the Nusra Front and others.

However, there was only Russian silence in the hope that Turkey would move or fulfill the promises it made through the Astana process or the Sochi process, to remove these groups from this region, but Turkey did not fulfill its promise, so Russia and Syria began the process of getting rid of these groups, and I hope To continue until these groups are already eliminated.

American support for Turkey in Libya

What was striking at this particular time was the surprising American statement about the Turkish role in Libya, where Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs David Schenker stated that the Turkish intervention contributed to balancing the cuff in Libya.

On this, Wassim Ibrahim says: The position of the United States in the Libyan file is surrounded by a lot of ambiguity and suspicion, because the United States since the campaign against Libya by European countries and interfered militarily in Libya and changed the regime there, led by the back exercised by US President Barack Obama.

He continues: Whoever carried out the political work in Libya are Europeans with an American administration, then Turkey or Russia will now come to reap the fruits through a certain infiltration within the game of internal warfare, this is not accepted by the Europeans and will always be criticized, and on the one hand the American position is still from the principle of monitoring and management from behind.

He adds: There is still no clear US position and we do not know how America will manage the situation in Libya, and whether it will be a supervisory and management role from behind or otherwise, so welcoming the role of Turkey can be read simply as a welcome for any adversary to enter Russia on the line.

Ibrahim continues: The Americans and the Europeans are not very comfortable that Russia plays a role in Libya, and let us remember what the High Representative of the European Foreign Ministry Joseph Borrell said when he said do you want to see Russia’s military military bases also on the Libyan coasts off our coast, this is what you do not want, of course.

In turn, Turkish analyst Oglu says: The American role was hazy and was not clear, and did not provide real support for legitimacy since the beginning of the crisis there, and declaring the American position to support legitimacy and that it is against what Haftar is doing, is to create regional balances, and to have a more effective role, especially After the Turkish step, which was proactive and without coordination with America.

And he continues: America wants to have a greater role there and therefore I expect that its entry on the line now will increase the effectiveness of legitimacy in Libya and the strength of the Saraj government, and at the same time Turkey will be cautious that this support may have behind him other positions and create another policy balanced with European policy On the other hand.

As for the lecturer, Amr al-Deeb sees it as an attempt by the United States to enter the line, and shows: Turkey, when it began to interfere directly in the Libyan file, was counting on Russian support for it, but Russia did not give Turkey this matter, so I always say that what happens in the Libyan file affects in a way Great on the Idlib file and what is happening there. When Turkey wanted to obtain Russian support in Libya, it meant that there would be an exchange between the Idlib file and Libya.

And he continues: Russia did not provide support to Turkey in Libya, so the United States wanted to enter the line in the issue of supporting Turkey, but the issue of Turkish intervention in Libya is not of great importance due to the great geographical distance between Turkey and Libya, and here we are not talking about common borders as happens in the north Syrian.

Al-Deeb adds: These American statements regarding Libya and its entry on the line are to try to replace its role with the Russian role, which refuses to support Turkey within the Libyan file, as a result of Egyptian-Russian contacts between the Egyptian and Russian presidents.

Support type

On the type of support that NATO can provide, and behind it the United States, the journalist Waseem Ibrahim sees that this support will stop at the political and verbal level only, and continue his words: NATO can, if it wants to intervene and provide support to Turkey, to form an alliance and undertake a mission there, and this is unlikely and unlikely Very, because that would lead to a clash with Russia, but the quality of support will remain like the Patriot missile batteries that were installed in the beginning of the Syrian crisis and then removed.

He continues: There could be some kind of intelligence support that we do not know explicitly if Turkey benefits from it, because “AWACS” reconnaissance planes are flying in the air and near the Turkish borders and exploring the region, and the map of movements on the ground is present with NATO under the pretext of the international coalition to fight ISIS. .

Ibrahim continues: It can be said that concrete support will be in the form of intelligence support that Ankara may require, so it must wait what Ankara will ask, but the Atlantic support is far from the material support that can lead to any change.

As for the Turkish analyst Yusef Kateboglu, he talks about the Turkish demands from NATO and the United States and says: The most important support that Turkey wants to provide is from NATO and not from the United States, and here I mean the European Group is absolutely supporting Turkey on the issue of the needs of approximately 4 million Syrians who are against the Syrian regime. .

He continues, therefore, this support is to secure a safe area with infrastructure and superstructure, to cooperate with Turkey in this regard, and not to allow migration to be for them and remain where they are, but with the provision of the most important conditions of life, and spare these waves of displacement.

He added: Turkey will not allow these people to enter Turkey, because it has endured more than any other country, and perhaps if Turkey is not supported, there may be another wave of displacement to Europe similar to what happened in 2015, and therefore the issue is serious and NATO and European countries should provide real support to Land, not conferences or pronouncements.

As for the lecturer at the Institute of International Relations, Amr El-Deeb believes that neither party will succeed in providing any assistance, and he explains: NATO or the United States will not be able to provide military support or material support for what is happening in Idlib, first because France totally rejects what is happening there, and France It somehow aligns with the Russian position on what is going on in Idlib, so NATO will not provide any material support.

He concludes his statement: NATO’s role will be limited to trying to calm things down, and things are going towards calmness, because Russia and Turkey have many things in common in different files, and Moscow and Ankara are afraid that what happens in Idlib will affect other files between them, whether in the gas issue or what is happening in areas Others, for example, Central Asia.

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