Clearly at this point there are two things: o Scalfari lies shamelessly or Bergoglio has confided to him seriously a thought that questions the very essence of Catholicism. However much Pope Francis may leave astonished in many of his outings and is not properly an Orthodox pontiff, it is still difficult to believe that he has uttered certain words seriously. Scalfari, however, seems particularly convinced and adds to the dose, citing a series of passages from the Gospel that he interprets in his own way (a way that would make the skin of any Christian crawl). And he explains that when he happened to discuss it, Pope Francis told him: "I am the proof that Jesus of Nazareth, once he became a man, though a man of exceptional virtues, was not at all a God."
The Vatican's denial
The Vatican, as expected, has categorically denied the statements that Scalfari put into Bergoglio's mouth, recalling that it is not even the first time that the editorialist of Republic launches into a very personal exegesis: "As already stated on other occasions, the words that Dr. Eugenio Scalfari attributes in quotation marks to the Holy Father during the talks with him – said the director of the Holy See press office, Matteo Bruni – they cannot be considered as a faithful account of what was actually said, but rather represent a personal and free interpretation of what he has heard, as appears completely evident from what is written today about the divinity of Jesus Christ ".